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#1 pastordad

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:09 AM

Does anyone know if this technology will be backed into the older scopes? I like the idea of a standalone AG option, but I suppose some of the tech is baked into the newer scopes. Are there any AG technologies out there that will bolt on to a 200 and allow you to guide without using a computer?

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:02 PM

I seriously doubt it, they would have to re-do the scope (mount) electronics -- well, I guess they could connect it directly to the guider port, but that would probably require a re-do of the StarLock firmare/hardware to support the guider port.
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#3 Am33r

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 02:35 AM

So Starlocking (or any AutoGuiding) is a Scope + a Camera + a Processor Device.  Well, for it to be a standalone it has to have a processor of its own (within the camera itself, or a little handheld like a phone size or a little tablet, basically more mobile than a laptop).

 

Here is one https://www.sbig.com...-i/st-i-color/ Used with these

 

https://www.sbig.com...-i-guiding-kit/

 

 

Here is another one

 

http://ca.skywatcher...il.php?sid=178  But I don't know how this one connects to the ViewFinder Scope

 

And then there is this combination, which I like the most

Orion 70mm Multi-Use Finder Scope http://www.telescope...pe/p/102777.uts will fit perfectly in the rings and replace the original finder scope on your Meade LX200.  You add a diagonal to it, then you add one of these Orion StarShoot All-In-One Astrophotography Camera http://www.telescope...ra/p/103030.uts which supports any windows (Including Win 10) Then you buy yourself an 8" Win 10 Venue Pro Tablet from Dell.

This setup shas the newest equipment and is versitile where you can use the tablet to run PHD2, and with BlueStacks (To run Android on Windows) you can use it to run SkySafari.  In addition you can use it to image out the live feed from the camera!  I am not sure what stacking or processing programs you have, but BYE might also work on it since it's windows.  I believe with a much better tablet you can replace using a laptop alltogether, but I am not sure as I have not tried.  Tablets are little and you can make a simple bracket to set it on the tripod or the pier of the main scope making the whole thing a standalone guider or used for other purposes if you are not guiding.

 

I would've suggested this autoguider setup http://www.telescope...age/p/99631.uts+ a win 8 tablet., but it seems they suggest the 50mm scope is used best with 1500mm or shorter focal length telescopes.  This camera here is only compatible with win 8 or lower, and sits on a 50mm scope (which has lim magnitude of 11 rather than the 70mm which has 12) so I guess more visible stars than the smaller aperture if you care to guide via the faintest of stars.  Of course you can still use the earlier mentioned Orion StarShoot All-In-One Astrophotography Camera on the smaller scope and just add a win 10 tablet with PHD2 installed if you don't care to guide with stars that are fainter than magnitude 11.



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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:25 AM

If it's a standalone AG package you desire, look into the LVI Smartguider 2.

I don't know what country you live in, but the only North American dealer is Ontario Telescopes.

It does not need a laptop, as it has it's own handset. It also has a communications module that also can control appropriate imaging cameras and electric focusers. It has a built-in intervalometers as well.

You can connect the guider cam to a decent size finder (at least 50mm diameter).

I hope this helps.

 

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#5 Mark Sibole

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 12:11 PM

here is my opinion on it.As you are imaging you are going to have a pc with you anyways.Buy an orion mini guide scope (looks like a 8x50 finder) that you can put a cheap guide camera on and use phd guide.I have the orion mini on mine and just used the guide scope rings to mount it and used an old dsi 1 I had here for a guide scope and with phd guide i shoot 30 minute subs with no problems.Im sure many other places have in expensive guide cameras.It would be less costly going this rout than to try to add starlock to an older LX 200 or LX 90 scope.


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:49 AM

here is my opinion on it.As you are imaging you are going to have a pc with you anyways.Buy an orion mini guide scope (looks like a 8x50 finder) that you can put a cheap guide camera on and use phd guide.I have the orion mini on mine and just used the guide scope rings to mount it and used an old dsi 1 I had here for a guide scope and with phd guide i shoot 30 minute subs with no problems.Im sure many other places have in expensive guide cameras.It would be less costly going this rout than to try to add starlock to an older LX 200 or LX 90 scope.

 

Mark.

Since you are using the Orion autoguiding package with a laptop, I have a question.  Can we use this one http://www.telescope...CFUVffgodUygNag

It says for 1500mm focal legth or less, and the LX200 models are 2000 or more.   What is your take on that?  This one fits perfectly on the LX200 telescopes instead of the viewfinder with the already-provided rings (and the viewfinder is really useless when one is autoguiding), that way we don't have to add another scope to the setup.



#7 Mark Sibole

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:59 AM

should work just fine so long as you have done your work on the scope like train and calibrate drives and a pec run with at least 2 updates.The only thing you will need to worry about is mirror shift if your mirror does not lock.I believe meademods has a solution to the shifting mirror problem.The sguide scope is the same one I have I just use a dsi instead of the orion guider is all.


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#8 Am33r

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 06:27 AM

Thank you, that was a quick response :)






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