They just HAD to do it!
Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:59 PM
They are taking all of my money!
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:07 PM
Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:25 PM
Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:43 PM
Now, they put out the special for the 30mm. I think I can get a 2 degree TFOV with everything except the extension piece, and get about a 5 mm pupil size, which is what I am expecting with the 20mm and the extension piece. I will compare the two images and see which one looks the best. I am thinking the 20mm will since it will be using up more of the extra correction in the focal reducer that my ACF scope does not need.
With the 24 mm and my cataracts, I looked for changes in the spikes on stars. I could make it until the last little bit near the edge of the field before I saw any detectable change. I think I am getting about a 2 degree TFOV that is pretty much correct. I plan on making comparisons with different combinations to see if the warpage around the outside is from the scope and corrector or from the eyepiece. With this eyepieces being good, but not something like Zeiss, I expect something going on around the edge, just don't know how much.
I had been curious about what the 30 mm would do, but was not willing to spend that kind of money to find out. With the special, they just barely got the price within a range that I could not resist even though I know I should not really buy one. There is a bit of agony with the purchase.
Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:55 PM
If I want to collapse the tripod, I just rotate the normal brace out of the way and over the top of the new 2 inch holes. The in-between part of the new holder board will dip in enough to allow the tripod legs to be drawn in all the way.
I plan on sending Meade a picture when I get one made and tell them they need to have something like that as an optional part. I think it would encourage people to buy two inch eyepieces, the diagonal, and other such things for the scope.
Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:46 PM
The eyepiece plate sounds like a great idea. I think you are on to something.
Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:51 PM
I have been oogling over the 30mm eyepiece for quite some time - the reviews have been very good. At first I thought, well I don't want to spend TOO much money on eyepieces, so I compromised and got the HD-60 eyepieces which I might say are very good in their own right.
Then I buckled and purchased that 24mm/diagonal special deal.
The view was profoundly different. Heck the HD-60s with the diagonal was a wonderful view too. With the 24mm - AMAZING!
So then I was really oogling over the entire set including the 30mm. In a couple of weeks I was going to pull the trigger.
Then came the deal of the week. There was no question, I purchased immediately. Plus I am looking at getting some exercise with this eyepiece!
Between my great experience with Meade support and service, and their products I will probably go on a buying binge.
Still, this deal was a stunner in my eye (no pun intended!). This will get a lot of people's attention for certain.
and all that...
Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:43 PM
Which means that I am going to have to stop telling the wife that spending money to save money is not saving money, unless I keep it secret!
Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:05 PM
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM
The views are simply stunning with this series, and here the 30mm will give you a wider field. The quality of the ep is fantastic - and the price is just too good to turn down.
I have the 24mm, will soon have the 30mm. I might just finish out the series.
and all that...
Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:25 PM
I can think of two ways to make an eyepiece plate. One way puts it up snug against the underside of the brace with holes for three 2-inch eyepieces in the open spots between the legs. I am thinking the winged holding nut on the underside of the brace will have to be taken completely off anyway, if I want to collapse the legs, just to get the brace enough room to turn. It is almost that way now. With that being the case, there really is not a reason to cut slots for the legs in the plate, just take it off.
The other way would be to add a bit of an extension onto the end of the threaded shaft that goes through the brace, then make a round plate with both 2-inch and 1.25 inch holes in it, then make it so that it can be rotated on the shaft extension, like a lazy suzan. The only possible problem is that the eyepieces might be too low. They would have to be low enough to pass under the leg brace. They might, however, be more accessible than having to reach across the tripod to get an eyepiece. I am thinking I could get three 2 inch and three 1.25 inch in a twelve inch disk and then have the three in the brace left over for a few real planetary eyepieces.
What do you guys think?
I had a real thrill with the 14 mm UWA. I normally see very little, if any, color in images. I am not sure what the deal is. Sometimes, a particular combination of eyepiece and telescope works like magic and I can see color in something. I have never really seen much color in Jupiter, with anything. The other night, I really had it show up using the 14mm in my LS 8. I could see red in the bands and some bluish spots elsewhere. It was wonderful. Right now, the 8.8 and 5.5 have a little too small of a pupil size for my eyes and it looks like someone is shining a flashlight into the telescope with the glare on the cataract material. With the 14mm, I am not getting that and I can see Jupiter comparatively very well.
If I put in a focal reducer, then the shorter focal lengths do well. I just have more glass in the way and I do not think I have quite as good resolution. Right now, both the 14 and the 24 are real winners for me with or without a focal reducer. I expect the 20 will be also. The 30 mm will probably do well with a focal reducer with no extension and with the telescope in its natural focal length. The 20 mm is on back order and probably will be for a while. I think all the stores have that one on back order.
From what I can observe, with the focal reducer alone, I am getting about f/6.3 from the scope. With the 1.5 inch extension tube, I am getting about f/4.3. At f/4.3 or 860 mm focal length, I am really pushing the optics and I bet I am loosing something along the way, but it sure is fun pulling in the whole Sword of Orion in one view, with room to spare.
Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:07 PM
Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:44 PM
14" Meade LX850 ACF f/8
80mm Meade 6000 APO
90mm Meade ETX
60mm Focal (First Telescope)
Orion MiniGiant 9x63
Mallincam Xtreme EXview HAD
Canon 5D Mark II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:10 PM
The more I think about it, though, if I were to make a board that pushed right up against the tripod brace, the big two inch eyepiece might make it hard to reach in and get the smaller ones that fit into the brace. I expect the disk will need to be a good four inches or more below the brace and will need to be made out of 3/4 inch plywood.
The only real question in my mind is whether or not I will kick the thing when I am sitting on my adjustable chair and if I can reach the eyepieces from a normal observing position.
When I get there and figure it out. I will take a picture and post it.
Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:54 PM
Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:02 PM
"Shipping Soon" probably means it's packed and waiting to go out with the next courier pickup/postal run.
People love making stupid names for things like this.
Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:46 PM
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But I must say this, I had an order that was "Shipping Soon" that stayed in that status even after it shipped. And I never got the email with the tracking number. I discovered it shipped only by checking the Account online. (But it does mention that possibility) By the way Bill, I also bit the bullet and ordered the 30 mm. Funny how we can find all the justification we need then something goes to half price isn't it?
Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:22 PM
I had the same notification thing with my 24mm and the diagonal. That is why I said "Whatever that means." I was out of town and my wife was not expecting a package. I was watching the "Shipping Soon" on the website and finally sent an email inquiry. The next day, I received notice that the items had shipped, a reply to my email that the products had shipped and been delivered two days ago, and a phone call from my wife that she found a box sopping wet from rains we had for the last couple of days on the front step. I had an email conversation with Carlos and we are all good now. I found out from a different source that they were having all kinds of problems about then. I personally think they got swamped with the weekly deals.
BTW, I found out from Carlos that my 30 mm is going to ship tomorrow and he is going to make sure I get the tracking information. Whenever my 20 mm gets unbackordered, I will have the full set. I sure do like them.
Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:51 PM
But what an awful experience with the package. Oh my, that must have been devastating. I can't imagine. My diagonal and 24 mm will arrive tomorrow. After hearing your story, I think I'll set up a chair and wait outside till it shows up. But all said and done, those eyepieces are just about the best you can buy. And barring anything happening to them, we will have them from now on... So I am feeling better about it all the time.
Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:28 AM
Anyway, I think they are catching up and are learning from the whole experience.
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